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RE: TWO MORE ARTICLES ON CAS REPORT

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Hello Boys & Girls,

Here are two more newspaper articles on our Violin Princess, Vanessa-Mae, being found innocent in the Olympic skiing qualifying case.

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I wouldn't use the phrase "found innocent"; more like "couldn't prove". It is difficult to believe that with all the officials involved in fixing the results so Vanessa-Mae would qualify, Vanessa-Mae would have no knowledge of what was being done.
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Just remember, you are innocent until proven guilty!

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CarrollTowerCX wrote:Just remember, you are innocent until proven guilty!

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This isn't taking place in a court of law where a crime has been committed.

Again, given the number of officials found guilty of tampering results that directly benefit Vanessa-Mae. It is difficult to believe she had no knowledge of it at all.

Not to mention that they never got to the bottom of who asked the officials to tamper with her results in the first place. I highly doubt that all those officials were die-hard VM fans ...
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The Court of Arbitration for Sport, has found "Ms Vanakorn, herself not guilty of any manipulation", in this Olympic brouhaha, Is good enough for me.
As far as my loyalty and interest in Vanessa-Mae and her Music and private life, I still find her exemplary.
She is a stellar person, no drugs, no drunkenness, no unseemly behavior.
So I stand four square behind her!

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CarrollTowerCX wrote:The Court of Arbitration for Sport, has found "Ms Vanakorn, herself not guilty of any manipulation", in this Olympic brouhaha, Is good enough for me.
As far as my loyalty and interest in Vanessa-Mae and her Music and private life, I still find her exemplary.
She is a stellar person, no drugs, no drunkenness, no unseemly behavior.
So I stand four square behind her!

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Yes, she was found not guilty of any manipulation, but that does not mean she had no knowledge of what was going on.

She has repeatedly stated how she really wanted to ski in the Olympics for well over a decade. If the results were not manipulated, she would not have qualified. Now, several officials were caught manipulating the results that allow her to qualify. So again, I ask "Who's idea was it?". To my knowledge, there were no other results that were falsified for candidates other than Vanessa-Mae. With that all said, am I really supposed to believe she had no knowledge of any of this?

I love and admire Vanessa-Mae's music, but I do not know her as a person, nor does anyone else here. You are letting your affection for her music to influence your view of the situation. I can't do that, as again, I don't know her other than her music.

Based on the facts of the case, it is likely she had officials cheat on her behalf so she can fulfill her life-long ambition of competing in the Olympics as a downhill skier. It's really that simple. That would count as unseemly behavior to me. She has tarnished the integrity of the game, and it also belittles the hard work for those who spent their entire lives preparing for the Winter Olympic games who are normal folks like us with no celebrity status.

Now, this doesn't change on how I view her music but it definitely does not speak well for Vanessa-Mae on a personal level.

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None of that matters to me.
I could not care less.

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CarrollTowerCX wrote:None of that matters to me.
I could not care less.

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And that is the reason why "fan" is short for "fanatic" ..
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BINGO!

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BTW, a fan is also an aficionado or supporter of a person, place or thing.
Thats me!

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CarrollTowerCX wrote:BTW, a fan is also an aficionado or supporter of a person, place or thing.
Thats me!

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No, a fanatic is defined as having an extreme or uncritical enthusiasm for a person, place or thing. The meaning also implies that such behavior is unbalanced and obsessive.

That definitely fits your view of Vanessa-Mae, because it seems that no matter what she does, she can do no wrong in your eyes.
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That may be, but you are now verging on an insult to my character.
Yes I am an avid fan of Vanessa-Mae. She would have to do something terrible to loose me as a fan, and none of this is it.
So as they say in the newspaper business...."30" !

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CarrollTowerCX wrote:That may be, but you are now verging on an insult to my character.
Yes I am an avid fan of Vanessa-Mae. She would have to do something terrible to loose me as a fan, and none of this is it.
So as they say in the newspaper business...."30" !

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No insult is intended, and you are certainly free to be as avid of a fan as you want. I was just correcting your definition of "fanatic". This subject matter is of little consequence to you, but you should know that that is not the case for everyone, especially those with direct involvement.
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